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In a questionable move fueled by something other than good will, those who received their tickets by mail this week were met with surprise and suspicion when the pricing levels and seating charts mysteriously changed AFTER all their money orders were cashed. People that have called me an apologist for the band and/or the promoter will love this article! I just write about things as honestly as I see them and whoever made this decision needs to be reacquainted with the Great Equalizer. I’m a Dead Head first and foremost and try to be a voice for us, not anyone else. The Dead and its affiliates have NEVER given me anything for nothing, I’ve ALWAYS paid my own way.
Prior to being aware of the demand for the Chicago Fare Thee Well Shows, widely published seating charts on The Dead’s site looked like this.
THIS was the chart that all of the people who sent in for Mail Order were sending their money for. THIS is what the deal was when people sent money orders to GDTSTOO.
After the unexpected deluge of requests came in from the mail order, it was announced that the floor was being opened up to all GA as opposed to reserve seating to accommodate more people which seemed like a kind and generous thing to do. The seating charts were then changed to something like this.
Take note, 300 Level seats are still $79.50 or $119.50. Floor Seats are still $99.50. The ONLY tickets at the $199.50 price point were the best seats to either side of the stage.
Following some consideration by the organizing parties, and prior to the internet on sale, it was decided that there would be seating behind the stage to accommodate as many people as possible. That seemed like a generous and thoughtful idea as well. At that point the seating chart changed to reflect seating behind the stage.
There’s a few things to take note of as we look at these charts. The 300 level seats, were all priced at either $79.50 or $119.50. Once the floor became all GA, the prices for tickets there were all $99.50.
Here’s where the Switcheroo takes place! People receiving Mail Order tickets this week received 300 level tickets that were priced at $199.50. See evidence here:
Not only that, floor seats as well as 300 Level seats that were released on TicketMaster this morning were all priced at $199.50. That my friends is a real unethical, unkind, unrighteous, and immoral maneuver. Whether it’s illegal, I’m not certain as I haven’t read through anything that may state that prices are subject to change without notice. What I do know, is it’s a move that stinks of greed and completely goes against everything that the band and its organization has provided throughout the years. It’s a move that Bill Graham NEVER would have made. This event misses him almost as much as it misses Garcia. Was there not enough money coming in already? This is where Shapiro goes from Genius to Jackass overnight. Is there anyone other than him that could be responsible??? I don’t think so… Loose with the truth, Petey it’s your fire… Baby I hope you don’t get burned…
We’re not a bunch of dumb, stoned kids anymore… It was completely, totally and unequivocally the WRONG thing to do. Given the situation, would fans decline their tickets or ask for a refund if they were told about pricing changes? Probably not if we’re being honest… Was this a poor decision by the leadership? It absolutely was. I don’t think the guys that make the music have anything to do with decisions like this so I absolutely don’t hold them accountable but someone should be held accountable. I probably won’t make any new friends with this post, but it’s the truth…
Dead To The Core,
Dean Sottile (pronounced So Tilly)
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The lawsuit should name Shapiro, Madison House, AEG, GDTSTOO, Weir, Lesh, Kreutzmann and Hart.
You need the last four for the publicity. GRATEFUL DEAD SUED BY FANS puts a lot more pressure on them to make this right than GRATEFUL DEAD PROMOTER SUED BY FANS.
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Which, from what I remember, is due to a charity addition or something added on to each ticket.
Original: See Section 247, 248, and 249. Also see the front sections in the 400 sections. Tickets went up $40-$50 dollars after orders were placed.
http://www.levisstadium.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/LS-Pricing-Map-GRATEFUL-DEAD-2.jpg?hc_location=ufi
Post-Sale, after they overcharged some unlucky people, they released this, which had those sections with new colors and higher prices:
http://www.levisstadium.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/LS-Pricing-Map-GRATEFUL-DEAD-21.jpg
Be very surprised if the band played any part in this..
Money = root of all evil
If you can’t beat the scalpers, become the scalpers. Smh
I believe the entire 100 section was 199.50.
What we don’t know is how costs increased by the increase of 20,000 per night or how many 199.50 & 149.50 seats were on the floor and how many GA’s they sold for 99.50 in their place.
Doesn’t look Kosher to me. On the other hand people that mailed in for 199.50 tickets shouldn’t have been penalized with no seats because of all the floor seats disappearing. They could have issued rebate checks with the tickets but people would have objected to that also. I guess the question is how many people that ordered less expensive tickets or the cheap seats had their orders filled.
The one thing that they should absolutely do is what Phish does and give free MP3 downloads to every ticket holder.
I know people that received a refund along with their tickets. Although they were disappointed about the crappy 400 level seats that they got (which should have all gone to Ticketmaster), they were happy that they didn’t spend silly money for them. What Ticketmaster did today was unfair. I was fortunate and was able to score a GA field for one night (nothing for any of the others), and still paid a little more than it should have cost…only because of the fees. I saw many others complaining how they paid more then I did for 300 level seats. That is just wrong.
Look, we are thrilled to be going to these shows and once we cross the Cook County line in a little less than a month, it’ll be all smiles, but this is just about as underhanded and crooked as you can get. I’ve made it a point to stay above all of the complaining and negativity up until now. I mean, they are effectively scalping their own tickets!
Anyway, I think in honor of the way things have been handled, I’m going to go cash out my savings account and throw it into a bonfire while dancing naked like a lunatic on my front lawn. Yeah…that’s a reasonable response.
Now, let’s just hope they invest profits in a proper sound system.
gdts offered a refund
obviously no but gravely disappointed
Original: See Section 247, 248, and 249. Also see the front sections in the 400 sections.
http://www.levisstadium.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/LS-Pricing-Map-GRATEFUL-DEAD-2.jpg?hc_location=ufi
Post-Sale, after they overcharged some unlucky people, the released this, which had those sections with new colors and higher prices:
http://www.levisstadium.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/LS-Pricing-Map-GRATEFUL-DEAD-2.jpg?hc_location=ufi
http://www.levisstadium.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/LS-Pricing-Map-GRATEFUL-DEAD-21.jpg
http://dead-50.net/soldier-field-seating-chart-updated-for-dead-50-ahead-of-tm-re-release/
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Hello,
Please note that seating charts reflect the venue’s current layout and are subject to change per show.
The venue’s updated seating chart can be found at
http://www.levisstadium.com/events/event/grateful-dead/
Section 403 has P3 level seats in it, as the front of the section is still considered P3.
Thank you,
Ticketing Customer Service Department
SO….since they didn’t have enough $119 tickets, they just created more out of what were $79 tickets. So now there are folks sitting in section 403 in $79 tickets and folks sitting one row in front of them in $119 tickets. Bill Graham is rolling over in his grave.
Original: See Section 247, 248, and 249. Also see the front sections in the 400 sections.
http://www.levisstadium.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/LS-Pricing-Map-GRATEFUL-DEAD-2.jpg?hc_location=ufi
Post-Sale, after they overcharged some unlucky people, they released this, which had those sections with new colors and higher prices:
http://www.levisstadium.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/LS-Pricing-Map-GRATEFUL-DEAD-21.jpg
Let’s hope that they make this right and don’t take the money and run. Dean keep up the good work.
BUT.
As you said no one would say no thanks if they told us this months ago. As a matter of fact they purposely timed it like this. Imagine the months of outrage wondering “WHAT” we were going to get. So tell them as late as possible. I know its wrong but why harbor it?
Carrying this negative energy I will not do. Talk of lawyers?
Come on. this will be over in a hot minute if you want it too. I love your stuff Dean Always have but I feel this might just rile the peeps up more. An angry vibe on your page. Ooh doesn’t feel like the normal Dean.
Now start writing some comedy damn it!
Yogi
Now, a Priest and 2 Hookers walk into a bar…
2 money orders and asked for either pit or reserved
all 3 nights nosebleeds in the back
w/3 $20 money orders
at least i have a tix
arrrrggggg!
3 weeks to SC!!!
Seating chart from Dead’s website.
Scummy, unethical and possibly illegal move by the promoter.
W&B, plus we don’t have jobs.
Dean, please research whether the dead will have a backdrop blocking the view of the stage from behind the band or not. If the band are thinking wisely, they will leave it open so all those behind the stage can still see the band! Those might be the best seats in the house, if there is nothing hung to block people’s view from behind. The only thing the band should hang behind and on the sides of the stage are speakers and nothing else!
these comments are blending two very different ticketing processes.
please, be clear as to which venue you are referring.
thank you.
Bottom line is, all this changing of prices is complete BULLSHIT! He should hire bodyguards for the rest of his life, he’ll definitely be able to afford it… The headlines should read:
GRATEFUL DEAD FANS SUE THE PROMOTERS FOR BEING TOTAL ASSHOLES AND THEIVES!!
This is just WRONG!!!!!!!!!
The writer may think most deadheads are not still young and silly, to paraphrase him, but a quick glance at most deadhead facebook groups should dispel that unfounded notion pretty quickly. To be honest, I find it sad and disappointing how most heads have become burn-outs who can barely articulate their stereotypical thoughts. They’ve fallen for the establishment liberal narrative unquestioningly and naively. There don’t seem to be many who actually gained a lot of wisdom from all of those years on the road. But that would be because they were running to escape reality in a debauched haze rather than embarking on a quest to gain wisdom. I say this after many years of witnessing over doses, glorification of junkie mentality, rip-offs, narcs, those who don’t pay their debts, and those who talk a lot about family but are never there for their so called family.
Is it any wonder that the band and its promoters seem to be mirroring the deadhead scene, or is it vice-versa? Since Jerry died it’s been all downhill…
I think the biggest disappointment is the TRUST I had for our scene, a TRUST that was still alive in my heart after 20 years has been broken.
I haven’t received my mail order yet, but I will be sure to post my results here.
I haven’t received tickets yet but now I’m prepared. Wish the dickhead had sent the email so I could have the elusion of being able to cancel.
city of Chicago as well!